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Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1022
I created my Leprechaun unit and gave it the medals power using DLR Tools. It seems that when I tested the unit in my Unit Testing Dungeon, it didn't actually appear to have medals at all in the battle, but the unit interface showed up as having the medals power.
I've changed their power to to Warding 4 but they still have a 100% chance of getting a medal if they win the battle. |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1024
There are many attributes that don't work for units. Medals only work for spells and items. Would be good to compile a complete list. I will do it some day.
Off the bat I know that: Renown only works as hero ability (not as spell though) Medals only work as spell and item. Mana drain only works as spell. Flight only works as spell and item. Group movement and movement only works as spell and item. |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1025
iirc flight also works as a hero ability and renown works as an item ability
heres the spreadsheet i've made some day |
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Last Edit: 11 years, 2 months ago by Molotov.
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1026
Onslaught, I distinctly remember making heroes that made their stacks fly. I was trying to make flying heroes at the time. So it's certainly not the case that Flight only works as a spell or item.
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1027
Concerning renown: I have tried it as spell and item and it never seems to make any difference on chance to get mercenaries. I can't say for sure but if someone truly wants to find out, would not be too hard to test.
About flight and hero ability. That's interesting. Will have to make a new hero now |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1029
Onslaught,
Flight definitely works as a hero skill. The original Shaman had it forever. It's a double edged skill in that once taken the hero and his stack is *always* flying and thus very vulnerable to archery... Molotov, Looking at your powers doc I can tell you that: Flight (0D) - I assume you mean group flight here since units definitely can fly. Move Bonus - works on items (99% sure of this) Questing - works on items Reveal Map - this no longer works at all in 1.02 Paralysis - works on items I believe all the remaining ? are really - (Not applicable) KGB |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1030
KGB, reveal map works.
it has a one time effect (like bless, summon etc) thus being combined with a permanent group-view in the shaman's spell confuses people and they think it doesnt work. reveal map is used in my Epic heroes set spells and it works fine. |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1031
Molotov,
Are you sure? I ask because this skill was put on a spell for the Divine Right heroes and it does not work there. The spell isn't even selectable when the hero levels up. Last time I remember casting it was on a Priest in ROH (Reign of Heroes). At that time you clicked on a hidden area of the map and it revealed like a 10x10 area of the map (so I knew it was a one time effect). Of course Divine Right is always played with Hidden map off. So maybe that's why it doesn't work / can't be selected because there is no hidden map, only fog of war. If that's the case it's useless because what you need is to be able to select a hidden OR fogged area to reveal it. KGB |
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1032
i'm 101% sure
you can try it yourself anytime. spell simply reveals an area around the caster (removes both hidden map and fog of war). so theres no clicking or something like that involved. area size depends on a casters level. its a pretty cool spell effect really. effect is one time and not permanent. thats why people were thinking its broken. thanks Todd Gabel he enlightened me about this (iirc) |
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Last Edit: 11 years, 2 months ago by Molotov.
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Re: Medals doesn't seem to work. 11 years, 2 months ago #1034
Molotov,
How big an area around the caster does the FOW get lifted? Normally most stacks have a view of 5 or greater making a normal stack reveal 5x5 up to 7x7. It would need to be something like 20x20 to have any kind of value for FOW. As I said, this was put on a hero in Divine Right and it's never worked. I can't recall it ever working in FOW only games. That's why I thought it might only be Hidden. The spell was *way* superior in ROH days. You picked any spot on the map and it revealed it in a 10x10 square. That was 100x more useful because you could reveal areas far away where you had no scouts. Right now I don't see any value because you'll out move the revealed area unless its 20x20 or larger so it would only be useful if you were at the end of your movement and wanted to see a bit further. KGB |
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